You are using an out of date browser. --->Paul But a bad hose end could rough up the new o-ring in one application, is the issue. ;) For my Ford tractors, I need the Ford orings - the cheap ones from the supply store do not cut it for this application, not the right material. Also, if the oil is coming from the rear of the coupler, are both the o-ring and the white plastic ring in good shape? 
"author": { over the past winter i replaced both barrels and that seems to cure the problem. Kubota enthusiasts, hobbyists, and fans! There a so many different sizes of O ring that if possible, it's best to try and identify it from a workshop manual or dealers parts list and even to to pay the dealers premium for half a dozen of the right size. Also, if the oil is coming from the rear of the coupler, are both the o-ring and the white plastic ring in good shape? Are you just using a box wrench to get them off? 2) Do not just over tighten Occasionally, a loose nut may be the culprit of a fluid leak, although all to often we see people over tighten the nut thinking the tighter the better. <>/ExtGState<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI] >>/Annots[ 26 0 R 27 0 R] /MediaBox[ 0 0 612 792] /Contents 4 0 R/Group<>/Tabs/S/StructParents 0>>
I moved a full dump truck of dirt today and I definitely noticed it getting much worse. i have a 4020 john deere. A third could be the plug(s) were installed without lube. Likely not worn out. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. The male end now has a ball instead of a pin. They make the couplers slide harder, but they work better than the cup seals on worn couplers How badly are your hose ends worn? Darrell, If you do happen to crack your tubing, I'v got a fix for that toothat doesn't require pulling the engine, buying flaring tools, and replacing 5 or 6 feet of tubing. You say it leaks from the bottom- do you mean the bottom of the vertical shaft, or bottom of the rear of the coupler? (LogOut/ JavaScript is disabled. I always clean the male connector before inserting it, and I cleaned this one again for good measure. Not leaking, problem solved. You can knock off the top cap, and replace those rings plus the cap. That is the usual cause of leakage- especially if the hose disconnected under pressure.
Ron, Did you use the kit from JD or used parts, or what? Easy to replace in the field. It includes a new 'carriage', I think it is called, maybe 'basket'- anyway- it is the metal guts of the coupler. It is definetly leaking from the tractor.
1 0 obj That seems to fix the problem on most of the machines but we've also had a small percentage where the entire connector had to be replaced. I had a kit ( both rings ) from local parts bloke in a sparex bag. Do you lose all the fluid when you change out these O-rings? This has been known to occur even with only 100 psi of pressure and up to four inches away from the fluid source. Simple fix and it works. Usually chips out a piece of the hose end coupler when uncoupling- but you've established the leak is from the vertical shaft, so I would go back to JD rings and go from there. Well, I went to the TSC and they didn't have the poppet style that matched, so I just bought a new set (1/2" npt) for $22, and replaced both sides. over the past winter i replaced both barrels and that seems to cure the problem. 2012 2720 -- 200CX Loader -- 54" Quick Attach Snow Blower -- Frontier LR5060 Rake -- Land Pride RB1660 Blade (Hydraulic Angle) -- Artillian 42" Forks -- Ken's Bolt on Grab Hooks -- Fit Rite Hydraulic top-link -- 2013 X500 for mowing duties. The nylon back-up ring is to prevent the O-ring extruding out of the coupling when under full pressure. "@type": "WebPage", <>>> have had problems over the last several years with quick couplings leaking. Searching for leaking couplers, quick-disconnects, fittings, etc provides an overwhelming number of false positive results. I disconnected it and reconnected it with no effect.
"height": 57 Who knows on brand. H2P0 BCo.#r_ / You could have a bad o-ring or two on that shaft. "@type": "ImageObject", Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V. window.dataLayer = window.dataLayer || []; function gtag(){dataLayer.push(arguments);} gtag('js', new Date()); gtag('config', 'G-04SJ2KTSCK',{ cookie_flags: 'max-age=7200;secure;samesite=none' }); Welcome! Contact us to learn more about replacing couplers with safety and affordability including Bobcat auxiliary hydraulic couplers. the couplers are attached to the bumper. Our Saturn block features a user-friendly relief system and is a direct field replacement for skid steer couplings. 5) Do not just assume its the fitting thats leaking The leak point may be different from the drip point as drips occur at the lowest point of gravity. Parker is also a common brand. A dry plug can tear the o-ring just enough to cause a minor leak. The hose ends are brand new and there is no rust. endobj
Hmm, IF the couplers are JD# AM37982 or AM31273, which will also cross over to Pioner/Parker 4050-2P, o-rings are JD# 32246. All the external dimensions look the same on both.
If you take it apart again use the 20 series old style o-ring/backup ring combination on the barrels. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. I guess I have to tear it out again and replace them and try again. "publisher": { --->Paul You need to determine where the oil is leaking from. Also, if the oil is coming from the rear of the coupler, are both the o-ring and the white plastic ring in good shape? John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. The clearance between male and female parts of the coupling is too great for an O-ring alone. Most Bobcats have a pressure disconnect to relieve pressure prior to disconnection. have had problems over the last several years with quick couplings leaking. Stucchi Instructions and Warnings (PDF). Without a subpoena, voluntary compliance on the part of your Internet Service Provider, or additional records from a third party, information stored or retrieved for this purpose alone cannot usually be used to identify you. I do not know if this relates to a JD, but it is my experience. Always consult equipment operator's manual and follow safety instructions before operating or servicing any tractor or equipment, or attempting any task. 1980 317 with KT17 series 2/remote oil filter kit. It is leaking at the bottom of the vertical shaft and could be that o-ring but, it was replaced when the other ones were. Should I be concerned? Many "stores" carry the correct size o-ring, but may also have a variety of materials, or maybe just 1 type of material. The most obvious is the "O" rings inside of the female fitting and the other is a mismatch of the two parts. 2 0 obj
"@type": "ImageObject", I used 2-3 gallons planting half acre of sweet corn today. You say it leaks from the bottom- do you mean the bottom of the vertical shaft, or bottom of the rear of the coupler? Actually never noticed that they existed!
You need to determine where the oil is leaking from. JavaScript is disabled. Usually chips out a piece of the hose end coupler when uncoupling- but you've established the leak is from the vertical shaft, so I would go back to JD rings and go from there. I would clean it up and see if it continues leaking, if so take it to the dealer as its still under warranty.
With at least 5 JD's with multiple couplers over 30+ years, I've always used JD parts and had 1-2 remotes rebuilt- one basket and 1-2 vertical shafts- never been a serious problem. The only benefit of Viton would be a higher operating temperature. I guess I have to tear it out again and replace them and try again. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I've never used anything but JD parts on the couplers, so I don't know how other supplier parts work. "datePublished": "2004-05-11", I have one QD that weeps. 2022 TractorByNet.com | TractorByNet is a registered trademark of IMC Digital Universe, Inc. Other trademarks on this page are the property of their respective owners. With at least 5 JD's with multiple couplers over 30+ years, I've always used JD parts and had 1-2 remotes rebuilt- one basket and 1-2 vertical shafts- never been a serious problem. O-rings should suffice to fix most leaks. Rusty 140h3 is a '73 with the original Pioneer female quick-connect couplers. over the past winter i replaced both barrels and that seems to cure the problem. We use cookies to optimize our website and our service. "@type": "Organization", We've had a bunch at our dealership where the fittings on the piece that is connected to the tractor needed to be tightened up. endobj 1999 455 with homebuilt loader, 3 pt hitch, 72" plow, 47 blower, 42 tiller, tilt/dump MCS, Curtis cab. I have a hard time seeing how much hydrolic fluid is left because it's clear. In my opinion this was a great idea with the "quick connect" but an absolutely horrible design that is prone to leaking. Likely not worn out. Often, one or the other part flies out upon disconnect. Contact a hydraulic quick coupler expert like Stucchi with any questions on diagnosing or replacing leaking quick couplers. After recently re-attaching my front loader, I had a leak at one of the quick connects. That is the usual cause of leakage- especially if the hose disconnected under pressure. There may be two of these, one top and bottom, be sure to press in on both of them to release pressure before disconnection. We welcome the opportunity to communicate and share industry information with you! } }. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. JavaScript is disabled. "name": "Dieselrider" "@id": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/" 4) Do not forget to relieve pressure its very important to depressurize the hydraulic system before inspecting connections. In order to cover what you should do for leaking auxiliary hydraulic quick couplers, lets first review what you absolutely should NOT do in the case of hydraulic quick connect leaks. Im being lazy, does anyone know the size of the orings? I have slim pickings in my area Hopefully you won't be disappointed with your new couplers.
Even a small pinhole leak can quickly penetrate gloves when exerted under high pressure and velocity. "width": 200, +o*qX*I@&\N*+T)vQeJZRJbwbLlxwx. Stucchi offers hydraulic solutions for leaking skid steer couplers and many other applications. The rebuild kit, the price you mention, is not just o-rings. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, https://www.mytractorforum.com/showthread.php?t=287161, Backyard Round Table: L & G Tractor Related Topics, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. That is the usual cause of leakage- especially if the hose disconnected under pressure. Often, one or the other part flies out upon disconnect. When it comes to separating myth from fact on how to handle hydraulic fitting leaks, it can be somewhat confusing knowing what to believe and who to listen to. Should I be adding fluid to compensate? Press J to jump to the feed. Failing that, go to the shop and try comparing it with what they have got there in their boxes. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Could it be that the units are shot or could the o-rings be bad still or just the wrong ones?
Yes - I'd like to sign up for industry & product information related emails from Stucchi USA, Event Calendar | Blog Careers | Company PoliciesCookie Policy | Privacy | Sitemap, Stucchi is ISO9001:2015, ISO14001:2015 and OHSAS 18001:2007 Certified Actually never noticed that they existed! }, Just because fluid is dripping off from the coupler doesnt mean the actual leak is from that connection. I wouldn't call it a real leak but there is a small drip over night after each use. I apologize if this is a commonly discussed issue - but I couldn't find it. O-rings should suffice to fix most leaks. "@type": "InteractionCounter", What thurlow said about rusty couplers is valid, as well as damage to the coupler with multiple disconnects under pressure.
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Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Be sure to keep any source of flame including cigarettes, lighters, cutting or welding torches far away from any hydraulic fluid leak. i have a 4020 john deere. You mention 'turn them on'- do you mean turning the lever that moves that vertical shaft to lock the coupler in place? THanks for the suggestions, I'll give that a shot!
its nice to not have to add hydraulic fluid any more or have the leaking mess down the back end of the tractor. You are using an out of date browser. "@type":"DiscussionForumPosting", Bobcat Hydraulic Fittings Aid Snow Removal, Leak Free Skid Steer Hydraulic Quick Coupler Solutions, Skid Steer Flat Face Couplers Prepare Your Equipment for Spring, Stucchi Complete PDF Catalog Download (12.5MB), Stucchi is ISO9001:2015, ISO14001:2015 and OHSAS 18001:2007 Certified. i have a 4020 john deere. When releasing pressure before disconnecting Bobcat auxiliary hydraulic couplers, most Bobcats will have a pressure disconnect that releases pressure if you push in on it before disconnecting. Bruce. I have seen rusted/pitted male couplers cause the problems you're having.. How badly are your hose ends worn? 3) Do not re-use O-rings we always recommend replacing the coupler rather than replacing O-rings as re-using an O-ring can make it susceptible to cracking and jeopardize the integrity of the connection. This only ruins the integrity of the fitting and is one of the most common causes of hydraulic fitting leaks. Has anyone else had this problem before and if so what did you do to handle it? replaced o rings 2 or three times with john deere parts. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. 40 Loader w/ loaded Duros and Starter weights. 4 0 obj You WANT/NEED Buna N/Nitrile o-rings. Have you had your dealer look at it yet? Ron, Did you use the kit from JD or used parts, or what? I have a 2017 BX23S with just under 300 hours. <> It is leaking at the bottom of the vertical shaft and could be that o-ring but, it was replaced when the other ones were. Will these rings work on a JD 300 series, are the 140 fittings the same size? What thurlow said about rusty couplers is valid, as well as damage to the coupler with multiple disconnects under pressure. dia on plug, and o-ring.
There are two things I have run across with the ports leaking. You can buy a set and replace them in just a few minutes. { They make the couplers slide harder, but they work better than the cup seals on worn couplers If you take it apart again use the 20 series old style o-ring/backup ring combination on the barrels. Its fairly common to have these leak. Either way the ag style should all be interchangeable- as long as the size is the same. leak would stop for a short time then resume and get worse over time. Come join the discussion about towing, PTOs, reviews, attachments, modifications, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Hi - 2 of the the quick release couplings on the back of the tractor (IH 685) are dripping steadily when they are connected, but dry when not. The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. "@context":"https://schema.org", As many know I have an X495 with fron blade that is hydraulically controlled. I use a quick blast of brake cleaner which usually works. endobj It may not display this or other websites correctly. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Here are some tips from hydraulic quick connect experts who have seen it all and been in the industry for decades. No, just a small amount between the internal valves on the connectors. Kubota salesman here. The o-rings will need to be matched at a store or measured and compared to a chart to get the part number. We get a good two or three turns out of some of them.
Use some brake cleaner to clean and and check it If it continues to leak defiantly call your dealer. "userInteractionCount": 9 "height": 57 Top 7 Tips for Leaking Bobcat Auxiliary Hydraulic Couplers, Forwarder2020 Utilizes Advanced Hydraulics to Protect Forests. But a bad hose end could rough up the new o-ring in one application, is the issue. ;). ", It is definetly leaking from the tractor. It gets to be more drippy during hard uses when the hydraulic fluid gets really hot and the viscosity decreases. I do not know if this relates to a JD, but it is my experience. So the probe goes through the nylon backing ring first and the rubber o-ring is closest to the tractor and not the implement? A forum community dedicated to John Deere tractor owners and enthusiasts. Going on the forum i saw this thread, curiosity sent me here and You answered my questions. I've never used anything but JD parts on the couplers, so I don't know how other supplier parts work. Stucchi is recognized for delivering a constant flow of hydraulic solutions custom designed to meet your specific requirements. I guess I have to tear it out again and replace them and try again. have had problems over the last several years with quick couplings leaking. Contact a hydraulic quick connect specialist for more tips on identifying and replacing leaking quick couplers on skid steer or any hydraulic equipment. replaced o rings 2 or three times with john deere parts. Bob, was going to post about the need to change a coupler that got bent when strapping my 322 to a trailer. For me, I'd never set foot in a TSC store until last month when I bought my first tractor. If you take it apart again use the 20 series old style o-ring/backup ring combination on the barrels. Anytime you do experience a leak with your Bobcat auxiliary hydraulic couplers, it is best to replace the coupler rather than attempt to rebuild it. What's not easy about replacing a 30p o-ring? I would stay with original parts before going to an off-brand. It is leaking at the bottom of the vertical shaft and could be that o-ring but, it was replaced when the other ones were. I have the 4 hydraulic quick connects that operate up/down and side to side function of the blade. You should always check your fluid levels daily, that being said, if you know there is a leak then you need to check them more often. <> 6) Dont forget about flammability People sometimes forget that even a pinhole leak may create a mist-like cloud of flammable vapor. I would stay with original parts before going to an off-brand.
For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Occasionally we get lucky and it is just that one of the fittings is loose from the factory. last 2 or 3 months before turning to mush and leaking. I actually had a male fitting that would go into the female fitting tightly but leaked, It turned out to be the wrong part. The hose ends are brand new and there is no rust.
leak would stop for a short time then resume and get worse over time. its nice to not have to add hydraulic fluid any more or have the leaking mess down the back end of the tractor. JavaScript is disabled. For my Ford tractors, I need the Ford orings - the cheap ones from the supply store do not cut it for this application, not the right material. Either you quick connect is defective, has some dirt in it, of it is leaking from the threaded connection. I either have to stop the leaking or find hydraulic fluid that is high in nitrogen and leave it as is for side dressing. But it is so small that after I wrapped a paper towel around it the towel soaked it up over and over a month's time the towel was just damp with no real indication of leak. zFf Actually never noticed that they existed! We mainly see this in tractors that the customer is using a lot of down pressure on the loader. Learn more about replacing Bobcat quick couplers and realize the benefits of quick connect systems designed by Stucchi. Now with the ISO standard, that is the only alternative I would go with. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I would stay with original parts before going to an off-brand. Stucchi USA sends out industry & product information related emails.
", Specs from JD are: Something I usually add when people inquire about o-ring sizes: If you're going to a "store" to buy o-rings, VERIFY THE MATERIAL!!! Yeah, the O-ring is deep inside the female fitting so you'll need a small dentist hooked pick or a small knitting needle to reach in and pull the O-ring out. }, Any debris can score the seals and cause a little leak. He has devoted 25 years to the fluid power industry in sales, management, and leadership roles within the industry. Do the inside ones first (especially the top one), (SOLD) JD 455 ~1996 w/ Rear PTO. I've never used anything but JD parts on the couplers, so I don't know how other supplier parts work. It may not display this or other websites correctly. If you have to correct parts then I would check the "O" rings. "text": "I have replaced the o-rings in both sets of remotes on my 2640 with aftermarket o-rings and they don't appear to leak until I hook up to a remote cylinder and turn them on. 3) Do not forget to depressurize the system Never leave a system pressurized when inspecting the connections, even if you only see a small drip of fluid on the ground. I do not understand why all the attachments I have have ball type replacements even though I got them from 4 different people. It includes a new 'carriage', I think it is called, maybe 'basket'- anyway- it is the metal guts of the coupler. (LogOut/ https://www.advancedfluidsolutions.d-straight-hydraulic-steel-adaptor-3000-p.asp. Any tips on reading that better? Just make sure that the couplers are free of any dirt when you snap them together. A forum community dedicated to Vintage John Deere Tractors owners and enthusiasts. 4) Do not re-use O-rings Even if you decide to reassemble a fitting (we recommend replacing the fitting altogether), you should never re-use an O-ring. I didn't even know I needed some. The rebuild kit, the price you mention, is not just o-rings. Releasing all system pressure after parking helps to reduce it, too. One thing to always remember is that hydraulic fluid leaks, especially when pressurized, can pose serious safety concerns and this should be your first priority. Shop Our Wide Range Of Quick Release Couplings Online - Available In A Variety Of Sizes.
Very, very common for this type of coupler to leak when all pressure is released. Good thread. We have seen this occasionally. My newest JD is a 1983- so hydraulic couplers have never been a problem that I couldn't fix with the right JD parts. No luck. That might well be. There are a couple of different options available from sparex - but which one is the correct one? EDPM is used for water service and may (??) Neil, Buna-N would be the correct o-ring material. I'm afraid you're gonna be on your back in that nice "warm" Maine weather. It is prolly a Parker. The hose ends are brand new and there is no rust. Contact us with any questions and to learn more about our leak-free hydraulic solutions. Even with gloves on, a pinhole leak with high velocity can exert in excess of 600 feet per second, which may inject hydraulic fluid right through thick leather gloves and into your skin.
The deere # is AM37983 for the original poppet style. O-rings are susceptible to cracking which may ruin the integrity of the seal when reassembled. Easy to replace in the field. Ef The back-up ring will be matched to the o-ring size. Then alot of hydraulic fluid flows out the bottom of the break away coupler unit. For the past 17 years he has been with Stucchi, Inc. beginning with its organic start-up to its current market leading position within the flat face coupler category. "@type": "Person", What a let down- I was unimpressed. You mention 'turn them on'- do you mean turning the lever that moves that vertical shaft to lock the coupler in place?
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Bob. Stucchi offers quick couplers compatible with brand names such as Bobcat, Caterpillar, John Deere, Kubota and other skid steer couplers which provide proven, long lasting performance. % If you are just changing o-rings you don't need wrenches. 1) Do not check for leaks with your hands hydraulic fluid can reach high temps in the range of 300F or more which will cause serious burns if it comes in contact with your skin. "mainEntityOfPage": { I believe the connectors are just prone to seepage. Usually chips out a piece of the hose end coupler when uncoupling- but you've established the leak is from the vertical shaft, so I would go back to JD rings and go from there. "image": { Still a steady leak. Neil, I'm not really too familiar with the exact make-up of the 140, but I believe (???) Stucchi offers hydraulic solutions to improve performance and safety while preventing downtime and hydraulic fluid leaks. The dealer has taken three warranty kicks at the can, and each time the drips stopped temporarily - and now it's doing it again. stream Despite the male probes all being the same size, I've come across dozens of different sized o-rings within the female couplers depending on how they are made internally. A family friendly forum community dedicated to all Tractor owners and enthusiasts. O-rings should suffice to fix most leaks. My newest JD is a 1983- so hydraulic couplers have never been a problem that I couldn't fix with the right JD parts.
Keep all sources of flame far away from any hydraulic fluid leak. Kubota Tech here, this is a very common problem with the "quick connects" on the newer B2601, B2301, and the Bx's. "name": "Yesterday's Tractor Co.", With at least 5 JD's with multiple couplers over 30+ years, I've always used JD parts and had 1-2 remotes rebuilt- one basket and 1-2 vertical shafts- never been a serious problem. 7) Do not ignore a hydraulic leak a minor leak may be a sign of a more serious problem with the hydraulic system and could lead to inefficiencies and poor performance.
\ \.cs=S# ;++ . Anyone have any ideas?? As part of the leadership team he is responsible for the strategy, execution, and delivery of solutions that provide value to multiple segments of the marketplace. The search engine finds lots of examples here where replacing the o-ring solves a leaking quick-connect. My 1538 had Stucchi couplings between the loader and chassis and the dealer used Safeway couplers at the grapple. Still leaking, replace quick connect. replaced o rings 2 or three times with john deere parts. If you are experiencing leaking hydraulic couplers on your skid steer machine, here are some tips on what NOT to do: 1) Do not over tighten thinking thats all you need to do you may overtighten the coupler thinking the tighter the better, although this can ruin the integrity of the seal and is one of the most common culprits of leaking couplers. Unfortunately the connection at the tractor is 7/8" JIC and not BSP - the sparex version of this connector is 66.24 each. Anything and everything about Kubota. So make sure the threaded connection is tight, clean both male and female quick connects, check for leaks. How badly are your hose ends worn? I've been using this style of quick-connect for almost 30 years and never had one leak like this. I fear JD is going to want alot for the rebuild kit, about $80 per side which, I believe is no more than about $1 worth of o-rings. It's a good idea to lube the plug, especially the first time it's installed. The quick-discs on mine have been a problem since the get-go. Leaking hydraulic fluid in any type of hydraulic application poses serious risks for operators and the environment. You must log in or register to reply here.
Should I consider changing from the stock John Deere breakaway couplers to something else. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU77RGMSDIE, Medium Frame Compact Utility Tractors (MCUT), Large Frame Compact Utility Tractors (LCUT), VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. You can knock off the top cap, and replace those rings plus the cap.
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