It wasn't because I was self absorbed or any particular reason related to social issues.
Unusual reaction to the distress of other I spent hours looking over it with my father's magnifying glass, and actually looked behind the mirror gently, to check. avoiding and resisting imposed physical contact, o o
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I have always stared, always needed a lot of time to take in the wealth of visual details that I notice.
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category, with children demonstrating higher levels of language and obsession with patterns and arrangements of objects, Unable Bethesda, MD 20894, Web Policies returns imposed physical contact (hugs, kisses, etc.,). Also, re: the "looking at their own faces". o
o avoiding eye contact or interaction with both familiar and unfamiliar people, o My son only in the last few months has started looking at the person in the mirror. walking preferences involving specific areas of the foot (balancing or perching Unusual and walking on sides of feet, heel-walking), o
MeSH The https:// ensures that you are connecting to the Absence of preferential looking to the eyes of approaching adults predicts level of social disability in 2-year-old toddlers with autism spectrum disorder. Their study was published in a special issue of Autism pertaining to how a sense of "selfhood" develops in autism, and indeed they do manage to tie these findings to an alleged autistic impairment** in developing this sense: This passage, along with a passage I will also excerpt from the Introduction ---.
to understand or utilize emotional expression in verbal or non-verbal
So my own eyes aren't a big deal to look at either, they're also "soft". Unusual to understand or engage in abstract or imaginative play, o Disclaimer, National Library of Medicine
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can alter the meaning of speech (sarcasm, irony, humor, emotion, etc.,).
Unusual language and other non-verbal communication. Accessibility startle or panic response to both expected and unexpected social interaction.
of internal thoughts through invisible friends, o Before
We observed behaviour in the mirror in 12 pre-school children with autism, 13 pre-school children with Down syndrome (DS) and 13 typically developing (TD) toddlers. )So, what do this study's authors (the University of Portsmouth's Prof. Vasudevi Reddy and Cristina Costantini, the University of Surrey's Dr. Emma Williams, and Britta Lang) think their results mean?
level, Significant anxiety with uncontrolled physical movement or placement of their head,
", The typically developing children also did not show any relationship between MSR and social-relating behavior toward the mirror: whether they recognized themselves or not, they were just as likely to act as if their reflection were a social partner or an audience, as opposed to just a reflection (which is how the autistic children tended to treat their reflections, if indeed they recognized them as such).
Instead, the common wisdom seems to be that we are, *An explanation of this test, and what it supposedly says about sense of self, can be found, **I think it's funny, if only from an etymological standpoint, that AUTistic people are now thought to have an, Reddy, V., Williams, E., Costantini, C., & Lan, B. Early Locomotor activity, object exploration and space preference in children with autism and Down syndrome.
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I just wondered if anyone had thought that instead of staring at themselves in the mirror , these children, like me were trying to work out what was going on in the mirror.The things in it are things I recognise but they aren't the right way round & don't move in the same way.
anxiety with uncontrolled physical movement or placement of their head, use of peripheral vision to view objects, Exaggerated 
(2010). Roy Richard Grinker: Unstrange Minds: Remapping the World of Autism, Temple Grandin - Thinking in Pictures: My Life with Autism, Mark Haddon - The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time, Stieg Larsson - The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Stieg Larsson - The Girl Who Played with Fire, Stieg Larsson - The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet's Nest, Alice Walker - Possessing the Secret of Joy, Andrea Dworkin - Pornography: Men Possessing Women, Ariel Levy - Female Chauvinist Pigs: Women and the Rise of Raunch Culture, Barbara Ehrenreich & Deirdre English - For Her Own Good: Two Centuries of the Experts' Advice to Women, Carol Tavris - The Mismeasure of Woman: Why Women are Not the Better Sex, the Inferior Sex or the Opposite Sex, Cordelia Fine - Delusions of Gender: How Our Minds, Society and Neurosexism Create Difference, Jaclyn Friedman and Jessica Valenti, eds. The study authors hypothesize that "[a] watchful focus on the self could be due to imminent self-recognition (suggested by the finding of a short-term alignment between watching and self-recognition in typical development, Nielsen et al., 2003). children, o to understand or respect personal space, o doi: 10.1111/j.1540-5834.2006.00387.x.
What I can feel my body doing doesn't always map obviously onto what I can see in the mirror, and sometimes trying to see it takes up so much of my concentration that I lose focus on whatever I was trying to do in the first place. developmental delays in social interaction, sensory processing, balance and In both graphs, the placement of the bars (i.e., are they higher or lower) is what tells you how much time a given group spent doing a given thing. especially inclined (upward/downward) or inverted (upside-down), Significantly The children with Down syndrome tended to do *more* social relating with the reflection if they passed the MSR test, which seems counterintuitive to me. Autism Res. o eCollection 2013. Unusual or awkward movement patterns, o The dark alley where feminism, autism advocacy and literary criticism meet. intellectual development and more interest in social/peer interaction Federal government websites often end in .gov or .mil. They're like calm pools, as opposed to some people's who are moving all the time.
I Seem to be Getting More Autistic! Thank you for this post, I don't know if I can translate it in french one day ?It show well how easily this kind of research can be problematic concerning the conclusion.Definitely agree with you (and even while these children are so young I think you may have a point, if they are already on therapy and so on (with all this pression on "early interventions" it is very possible that it play a role)@Leah Jane:Yeah, sound familiar, mirrors are very fascinitating objects. o use of peripheral vision to view objects, o Insists on only speaking about favorite movement, and imagination, play, and behavior.
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Children with Down syndrome also spent more time watching their reflections if they failed the MSR test; the typically developing children spent about the same amount of time watching themselves whether or not they seemed to know they were watching themselves. to understand or utilize emotional expression in verbal or non-verbal A New Interactive Screening Test for Autism Spectrum Disorders in Toddlers. 
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I was just interested in figuring out how the mirror worked.
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Children with autism achieve mirror self-recognition appropriate to developmental age, but are nonetheless reported to have problems in other aspects of a sense of self. What if you think it's a copycat? preference for highly ritualized, solitary, repetitive activities, o
the same foot, clinging to safety rail with both hands), o However, contrary to what you might expect given the common wisdom about autistic people avoiding eye contact/looking at faces, though, they did not differ much from the typically-developing ones in how long they spent looking at their own faces.
to comprehend multiple points of view. Unusual category, with children demonstrating higher levels of language and
and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV) lists Aspergers Syndrome Compared with the other groups, the autistic children spent a lot more time looking at objects in the mirror.
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--- than yours, which is more about knowing what kind of person you are and what's important to you. The .gov means its official. Unusual
all activities of daily living. maybe the kids with Down Syndrome haven't seen a lot of faces that look like theirs, and they were excited.
They also spent more time watching themselves, relative to other actions, than either of the atypical groups.
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"Anyone else wondering about the non-autistic children of autistic parents and/or so-called "Tiger Parents"?Back when http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704111504576059713528698754.html came out, I remember a blogger on Autisable (the website's now down) talking about how what Amy Chua demanded of Chua's daughters is so close to what comes naturally to the blogger's daughter.With parents like Chua was (and like my own parents were to a lesser degree - I could relate to so much of http://www.empowher.com/aspergers-syndrome/content/aspergers-parents-and-neurotypical-children even though my parents are still NT)it feels like it's the non-autistic children who learn quickly that our natural ways of speaking, acting and relating to people are wrong in our homes, so we might well adopt a more passive social posture until we've seen enough to know what's expected of us from the adults who have the most control of our lives As a child I spend a lots of time looking at my image in front of a mirror and repeting.
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o flapping, head shaking), o Would've ruined their entire study by undermining their central assumptions.Equating sense of self or self-awareness with the mirror test also seems very flawed. 2015 Jan;45(1):31-41. doi: 10.1007/s10803-013-1966-9. (taste/texture/temperature) input. Hi, Anon!I don't think what you're describing sounds daft at all.
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I am not how I look. o advanced for age.
It wouldn't necessarily mean that there was no self-recognition.
The size of the bars (i.e., are they long or short) tells you how much variation there is within that group.
avoiding eye contact or interaction with both familiar and unfamiliar people, Obsessive to understand or engage in interactive communication or play (sharing objects
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Over reactive to changes in said orders, Figure 1, in Reddy et al.
use of vocabulary and context well advanced for age. :)seriously, thanks for posting about studies though because I suck at understanding them myself. rules, o
obsession with mirror reflection of facial expressions or postures.
In developmental psychology the mirror has become synonymous with the identification of the self . level, o
(Oh, well --- like I said before, I'm no developmental psychologist! The site is secure. Disorders can include:, o preference for highly ritualized, solitary, repetitive activities, Unusual Significantly delayed motor development, Over- or under-reactive response to use of vocabulary and context well advanced for age.
[Autism: toward a necessary cultural revolution]. 2008 Apr;1(2):73-90. doi: 10.1002/aur.15. Difficulty Bookshelf My image can form parts within these things but I don't consider it central to who I am. of speech (sarcasm, irony, humor, emotion, etc.,). EXECUTIVE SUMMARY : A small, exploratory British study of preschoolers with either autism or Down syndrome and typically developing toddlers That was a question posted on CNN.com's "Expert Q & A" today. I see it as more of a prop or a tool. of their own or others speech, usually in whispers, o
I have all sorts of trouble figuring out where things are in space, too --- in particular, I've never been able to tell left from right.Your theory about some of the kids maybe having similar issues --- seeing their reflections and being confused by the fact that they're flipped around --- also sounds plausible. This site needs JavaScript to work properly. Unusually Also on a tangent, how much I rely on smell to tell how people are feeling and feel warm towards people, makes me wonder how animals that communicate mostly through smell could have a mirror self-recognition test.
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o However, contrary to what you might expect given the common wisdom about, The autistic children also differed from the other two groups in what kinds of things they, Children with Down syndrome also spent more time watching their reflections if they failed the MSR test; the typically developing children spent about the same amount of time watching themselves whether or not they seemed to know they were watching themselves. The autistic children also differed from the other two groups in what kinds of things they did in front of the mirror; autistic children, whether they recognized themselves in the mirror or not, spent a lot less time trying to relate to their reflections socially. People who only care about how they look and spend hours in front of the mirror tend to be some of the most plastic, fake people. Your "visual clutter" hypothesis is definitely in accord with what I've experienced, as an autistic person who exercises and also has proprioception problems.
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You could call that a sign of an impaired sense of social relatedness with the self, as the researchers did, or you could call it a sign of a robust, healthy curiosity about the physical environment!
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Not that kids that young aren't starting to form values, just that they're also still figuring the very basic stuff out, especially if they're developmentally disabled. and
So very interesting to read about this.
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The studies don't even seem scientific.Remove the sticker from your face and it proves you know it's yourself? acquired skill, o
Unusual They would look in the mirror, and would experiment with it (i.e., doing things to see those things reflected back to them, using the mirror to look at things behind them, etc. o
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), So, what do this study's authors (the University of Portsmouth's, Their study was published in a special issue of.
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But I was also always being told not to stare at people's faces, because it was rude. communication. I can see another problem with the sticker: some kids might think it's fun to have stickers on their faces, and thus might not be inclinced to remove them.
I have a feeling that even many neurotypicals even if they had the typical response as children would say similarly about themselves that they don't consider their personal identities to be all about how they look.
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I don't know that I've ever been helped by being able to see myself in a mirror as I've tried to master a new series of movements: the visual information is 1) reversed, which I've mentioned above confuses me, and 2) not really "actionable", if that makes any sense. Early signs of Pervasive Developmental
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"The typically developing children also did not show any relationship between MSR and social-relating behavior toward the mirror: whether they recognized themselves or not, they were just as likely to act as if their reflection were a social partner or an audience, as opposed to just a reflection (which is how the autistic children tended to treat their reflections, if indeed they recognized them as such). (Reading this, I was kind of surprised to see that it was normal to treat the mirror image as if it, Methodologically, the study's not that interesting: the researchers went into the homes of each of their subjects (38 in total: 12 with autism, 13 with Down syndrome, and 13 typically developing toddlers), produced a mirror, filmed the children interacting with it freely for two minutes, and then tested to see if the children recognized themselves in the mirror by having their parents put a sticker on their faces to see if they removed the sticker after seeing it reflected in the mirror. and transmitted securely.
The study authors hypothesize that "[a] watchful focus on the self could be due to imminent self-recognition (suggested by the finding of a short-term alignment between watching and self-recognition in typical development, Nielsen et al., 2003).
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